In Conversation with Pearl Lam

A conversation about the difference between wellness and wellbeing, attention as our most valuable resource, and why living better may begin in the body.

The Pearl Lam Podcast · 33 minutes · Watched more than 80,000 times · Watch on YouTube

“Some lessons cannot be learned through reading, analysis or explanations. They can only be learned through experience.”PEARL LAM
“Discomfort is not the obstacle, it’s the pathway.”REBECCA TUNG

In this conversation

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  1. 0:00Introduction
  2. 1:09Wellness versus wellbeing
  3. 5:12Why people are searching for these practices
  4. 6:24Why put up with discomfort?Read: The Body as a Way of Knowing
  5. 8:10Is wellbeing the new luxury?
  6. 10:07When attention leaves the bodyRead: What Cannot Be Recorded
  7. 12:09What older traditions knew that we've forgotten
  8. 13:45Thinking too much: how the body informs the brainRead: The Body as a Way of Knowing
  9. 15:45Noticing stress before burnoutRead: What Cannot Be Recorded
  10. 17:10Attention as our most valuable resource
  11. 17:35Working with a wandering mind
  12. 19:05Why discomfort focuses the mindRead: What Cannot Be Recorded
  13. 20:27Ambition, competitiveness and stillness
  14. 22:33Clarity and decision-making in business
  15. 23:36Longevity, vitality and jingRead: The Body as a Way of Knowing
  16. 27:04Calm as the source of energy
  17. 28:05One exercise for everyone: standingRead: What Cannot Be Recorded
  18. 29:37Learning to experience life again
  19. 31:34Closing reflections

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